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angelfromanotherpin wrote:

TheFlatline wrote:And really, wanting to play f*cking iron man in a monster game? Oie...

Seems like a perfectly reasonable Posthuman with War Form to me.

This.

I've got one going now with a superhero inspired transhuman.
It works out alright, although he's turned more Punisher than the original concept.

You could easily run most superhero tropes within the framework, I think.

A Man In Black wrote: WOD has always been "You play a superpowered characters with powers from a source which makes your life suck ass."

Well, what truly makes your life suck ass is the fact that either superpowered underground is full of psycho bastards, or there are eldritch abominations around, that want to eat you... Otherwise, discounting a few rules that nearly always get ignored, for being disconnected from the fluff, perks of your new condition can be quite nice.

...To think about it, this does not sound any different from regular comic book universes.

Okay, let's add: and you don't have mechanical power to just beat up many of the threats.

A Man In Black wrote:

TheFlatline wrote:Yeah good luck with that.

And really, wanting to play f*cking iron man in a monster game? Oie...

You need to have him run a game, and do your damnest to break and destroy it, just so he knows what it feels like.

Yeah, everyone knows superheroes and horror don't mix.

WOD has always been "You play a superpowered characters with powers from a source which makes your life suck ass."

Well okay. Let me rephrase that. Iron Man in oWoD cosmology sucks. I mean, when the technocracy introduces HIT Marks they're mindless paradox generating nightmares.

If we're talking aWoD Then things are significantly looser, but we were originally talking about Werewolf cosmology, where Iron Man doesn't really fit.

TheFlatline wrote:You need to have him run a game, and do your damnest to break and destroy it, just so he knows what it feels like.

The last D&D game he ran, I played a hellbred goblin warlock with aberrant and devil-touched feats out the wazoo, and a custom PrC based on arachnomancer, I think I've done that...

It pretty much shaping up to be a supers game, just using some basis on AWoD, because we're not even using the system, I'm having to make Maya powered characters wild cards so that one player can actually play her concept without being tied to icky-verse, and another player is playing Doc Savage, basically the Pulp basis for Superman.


It's not even recognizable as WoD anymore...

TheFlatline wrote:
Well okay. Let me rephrase that. Iron Man in oWoD cosmology sucks. I mean, when the technocracy introduces HIT Marks they're mindless paradox generating nightmares.

If we're talking aWoD Then things are significantly looser, but we were originally talking about Werewolf cosmology, where Iron Man doesn't really fit.

In oWoD, Iron Would Be... a Black Spiral Dancer made using the interpretation presented in Clanbook Setite. He has had his heart removed by the Setite heart-in-a-box power to make him more compliant and less vulnerable. Then he took one of those Bane Charms that you stick into your chest to give you super strength that crushes your heart if you don't do something more wicked every day, and then fucking ignores its constant pleadings because he left his heart in New Orleans. Then he got himself one of those thaumaturgy ritualized sets of clothing that let him change form without people noticing and because he is a power gamer he had that clothing happen to be a full set of riot gear. Flight can be achieved by any of a number of ways, but my personal choice would be to grab a bane charm whose drawback is that you have to drink heavily.

In nWoD, Iron Man Would Be... A Promethean, basically right out of the box. The backstory is a little different, namely that the "real" Tony Stark died in the cave but managed to make himself (or a decent enough heartless simulacrum) come alive with most of his memories and his good looks. He simply has the incredible super strength all the time, and the metal suit is simply him using the optional "super heavy armor" rules for people of ludicrous strength (which still suck, because this is a combat option in nWoD, but whatever). He is charming and powerful in person, but his alcoholism and narcissism gradually drive away people who are close to him.

In aWoD, Iron Man Would Be... a Transhuman. You grab the Flight discipline and some plate mail and you're good to go right out of the box.

The big problem is that in oWoD and nWoD you need a lot of experience points or a lot of sourcebook dumpster diving to be Iron Man. Not that you can't do it. Oh, and the rules suck ass. So for example in nWoD Iron Man's super heavy armor is worth a dice pool reduction of 5 dice from incoming attacks. Which means that he is effectively bullet proof only from small arms held by inexperienced users. When confronted with trained soldiers, his armor is basically meaningless, since they will still be doing him a couple of wound levels with every shot.

-Username17

This player is of the opinion that the way children of aether are written in AWoD means you can't do a power armour character, because your stuff's inherent, not tied to equipment.


yes, seriously. He also has an issue with the Transhuman weakness, namely iron, even though I've recently explained how Iron Man's or Luthor's power armours are still bullet proof (namely, make the outer layer of your armour a material that isn't weak to iron.)

By that logic, a "power armor" character in every version of World of Darkness has to be a mortal who happens to have magic armor. That's retarded.

-Username17

except mage, of course.

But yeah, we've gotten so far from AWoD it's not even recognizable as having been started as such anymore.